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Car makers that might as well back out of U.S.

Marketwatch -- Among the September car and light-truck successes of Fiat’s Chrysler, Honda Motor Co. Ltd. and Toyota Motor Corp., and the disappointing results of General Motors and Ford are all-but-forgotten automobile manufacturers that sell almost no products in the United States. It is a miracle that they continue to attack the market, and little surprise that they flounder in doing so.

Among these, Mitsubishi Motors and American Suzuki sell inexpensive cars — and hope to compete with Toyota, Honda, and Hyundai. They have no chance.

The marketing muscle, dealer networks, product development and advertising budgets of the larger companies are too great. The two small firms barely have dealer counts high enough for consumers to find them. It is a wonder that their parent corporations continue ...

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Submitted Oct 07, 2012 By: BurntOrange

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LilRedWagonIN Champion Author Indiana Posts:7,776 Points:1,555,135 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 12:39:19 AM Ignore LilRedWagonIN Report Abuse There is an ebb and flow of market share that is being ignored by short-sighted prejudiced articles.
kkimes Champion Author Illinois Posts:1,601 Points:1,506,310 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 12:07:56 AM Ignore kkimes Report Abuse "Suzuki for sure has no chance." Really a shame too because I have a soft spot in my heart for them. I had a Samari for a couple of years. Pretty primitive, no A/C or other amenities and needed a tail wind to hit 70mph and sounded like an out of balance washing machine above 50. But what a blast. A convertible in the summer and a 4 wheel drive jeep in the winter. Good value too. The lowest cost per mile vehicle I've ever owned. Would have had it a lot longer but I rolled it and my wife wouldn't let me get another one.
bston Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:1,820 Points:642,275 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Oct 8, 2012 11:15:06 PM Ignore bston Report Abuse The lesser known automakers will always be there because prices are needed for those that can't always afford the bigger automakers.
DanMtz Champion Author Oakland Posts:3,355 Points:1,243,325 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Oct 8, 2012 11:41:34 AM Ignore DanMtz Report Abuse Suzuki for sure has no chance.
truvoice1 Champion Author San Diego Posts:1,283 Points:474,340 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 8, 2012 1:28:22 AM Ignore truvoice1 Report Abuse It would be sad to see Volvo and Mitsubishi go away, for having owned vehicles from both brands I can attest to Mitsubishi's reliability and Volvo's superior engineering, especially in the area of safety.
DesertRat2011 Champion Author Riverside Posts:3,618 Points:485,805 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 11:19:19 PM Ignore DesertRat2011 Report Abuse Sure don't know how they can stay around with those low of sales numbers?
ExplorerWA Champion Author Washington Posts:4,083 Points:797,250 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 10:10:51 PM Ignore ExplorerWA Report Abuse They are just hanging on.
sillywagon Champion Author New York Posts:14,891 Points:1,440,595 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 8:30:52 PM Ignore sillywagon Report Abuse I notice Suzuki's... but it tends to be the "SX4 Crossover" hatchback that I notice. it's small but not dinky. And they claim it's the cheapest AWD vehicle you can buy new. That's a selling point.
Night Owl Champion Author Toronto Posts:7,555 Points:1,787,575 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 7:06:15 PM Ignore Night Owl Report Abuse If Hyundai can survive and thrive, anybody can do it. These car companies just have to have quality and commitment.
PathfinderSC Champion Author South Carolina Posts:9,519 Points:1,830,825 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 6:03:07 PM Ignore PathfinderSC Report Abuse Good Article.
Bearcat500 Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:9,726 Points:1,631,275 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 5:54:06 PM Ignore Bearcat500 Report Abuse OK
qwerty17 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:3,655 Points:1,117,900 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 2:48:56 PM Ignore qwerty17 Report Abuse loved my isuzu rodeo.
schatzila Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:4,949 Points:1,016,620 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 12:16:16 PM Ignore schatzila Report Abuse Quality is where it counts.
73amx Champion Author Allentown Posts:1,173 Points:459,765 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 12:02:34 PM Ignore 73amx Report Abuse maybe the smaller companies, as you call them, are making the larger corporation look twice at themselves. a lot of smaller companies have some very good ideas and products and the big guys then try to incorporate into their own products.
Seamus4513 Champion Author Orange County Posts:2,578 Points:386,355 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 11:26:39 AM Ignore Seamus4513 Report Abuse Ok
07skydriver Champion Author Ohio Posts:3,256 Points:982,275 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 11:00:58 AM Ignore 07skydriver Report Abuse And Chrysler too.
TxMtb Champion Author Ohio Posts:1,540 Points:344,330 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 10:02:46 AM Ignore TxMtb Report Abuse For the amount of money it costs the taxpayers to keep them open, GM should leave and let someone with a profitable business model come in.
highdesertman Champion Author Albuquerque Posts:2,479 Points:1,717,105 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 9:58:18 AM Ignore highdesertman Report Abuse Hard to sell cars with little or no advertising and a limited dealer network. Frankly, I'm a little surprised that Mini, Smart, and Jaguar aren't on this list.
joekool1 Champion Author Toledo Posts:1,099 Points:131,280 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 9:53:55 AM Ignore joekool1 Report Abuse gm and fiat should leave also
matman01 Champion Author Detroit Posts:14,838 Points:1,960,835 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 9:02:43 AM Ignore matman01 Report Abuse I don't see Volvo leaving any time soon.
ss70 Champion Author Detroit Posts:9,662 Points:1,870,100 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 8:58:55 AM Ignore ss70 Report Abuse great brands than these went down .. so it is natural way
derKraut Champion Author Ontario Posts:2,095 Points:1,227,650 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 8:35:20 AM Ignore derKraut Report Abuse I suspect these makers will go by the wayside shortly - like Saab and Volvo.
merlinCO Champion Author Colorado Posts:1,640 Points:341,395 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 8:33:58 AM Ignore merlinCO Report Abuse They don't pay enogugh to re-elect politicians.
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,303 Points:2,143,925 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 8:25:29 AM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse On Oct 7, 2012 2:13:03 AM, LanguageMan1 wrote: >Oh, yeah, ALL the major analysts said that Apple couldn't survive >with a 2.5% or less market share back then, that they'd go belly up. Apple has about 25% market share right now. Guess people like their Apple stuff. I know that I do. It just works. They have about 70% of the tablet market, about 70% of the portable music player market, and a good chunk of the cell phone market.
Yooperheart Champion Author Michigan Posts:3,416 Points:527,025 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 7:59:13 AM Ignore Yooperheart Report Abuse Only time will tell.
OldMan322 Champion Author Illinois Posts:5,155 Points:1,594,740 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 7:50:34 AM Ignore OldMan322 Report Abuse Mitsubishi are manufactured in Illinois, I'm surprised Obama didn't give they a loan
335d1 Champion Author Virginia Posts:2,381 Points:759,045 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 7:42:26 AM Ignore 335d1 Report Abuse Mitsubishi and Suzuki haven't been able to set their cars apart and above the competition.
Tacodan Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:2,319 Points:654,210 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 7:13:07 AM Ignore Tacodan Report Abuse no GM's for me......
WGW1 Champion Author British Columbia Posts:1,242 Points:389,240 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 6:29:38 AM Ignore WGW1 Report Abuse Ford is just another 4 letter word. I know, I swear by them.
Badmoon Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:8,308 Points:1,651,490 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 6:16:32 AM Ignore Badmoon Report Abuse It's amazing they've been around this long. I haven't seen a Suzuki for years.
rocket_ron Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:6,286 Points:1,986,495 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 6:14:43 AM Ignore rocket_ron Report Abuse ok
kyjlh Champion Author Kentucky Posts:1,622 Points:652,635 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 6:14:12 AM Ignore kyjlh Report Abuse ok
LoneGuy Champion Author Lansing Posts:8,480 Points:2,317,995 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 6:11:37 AM Ignore LoneGuy Report Abuse This country used to be a great market for autos. The economy has really hurt the auto business for all in the US.
turbodog Champion Author Mississippi Posts:6,756 Points:1,362,440 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 6:10:21 AM Ignore turbodog Report Abuse Ford for me
74celica Champion Author Columbus Posts:1,430 Points:1,809,700 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 6:10:10 AM Ignore 74celica Report Abuse make cars that are dependable and priced so the average joe can afford
padlocks2 Champion Author Virginia Posts:3,062 Points:621,880 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 6:07:45 AM Ignore padlocks2 Report Abuse Buy FORD
SUPERSTEVIEO Champion Author Quebec Posts:3,523 Points:787,115 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 6:07:40 AM Ignore SUPERSTEVIEO Report Abuse if the number of companies that sell drop... them the increase of vloume for the rest f the makers... should decrease production costs and hence prices... right???
MImusicman Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,873 Points:407,675 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 6:06:27 AM Ignore MImusicman Report Abuse Whatever.
alphanyr Champion Author Connecticut Posts:4,830 Points:675,750 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 6:05:12 AM Ignore alphanyr Report Abuse Bye
six_ball_man Champion Author Rochester Posts:8,543 Points:1,392,095 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 6:04:39 AM Ignore six_ball_man Report Abuse Most successful companies today got that way by throwing their hands up and quitting...LoL
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raccoon2011 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:1,394 Points:352,025 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 6:01:27 AM Ignore raccoon2011 Report Abuse interesting
blupupher Champion Author Houston Posts:3,550 Points:748,045 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 5:53:17 AM Ignore blupupher Report Abuse Suzuki has always been a small car maker with some interesting vehicles.
ReddevilNO Champion Author New Orleans Posts:3,371 Points:581,190 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 5:44:08 AM Ignore ReddevilNO Report Abuse Wow!
skippypa Champion Author Hawaii Posts:8,476 Points:1,740,930 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 5:26:26 AM Ignore skippypa Report Abuse ok
rbrk02 Champion Author Rhode Island Posts:5,742 Points:817,230 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 5:04:02 AM Ignore rbrk02 Report Abuse I'll stick with Ford.
werich44 Champion Author California Posts:1,857 Points:468,955 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 3:27:00 AM Ignore werich44 Report Abuse And this affects the price of gas how?
Bussman Champion Author Dallas Posts:5,518 Points:1,359,960 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 3:09:15 AM Ignore Bussman Report Abuse Didn't know Mitsubishi and Suzuki still sold cars in the U.S.
wegman Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:7,808 Points:2,088,570 Joined:Jun 2001	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 3:03:05 AM Ignore wegman Report Abuse 1) A small chunk of the American market is a larger than big chunks of most markets. 2) I was surprised at the names - they are familiar (if you are old). And sparkie815 - the TRASH comes from Government Motors and the UAW. Depending on what joke you tell - Fix Or Repair Daily, Found On Road Dead. Detroit has EARNED that reputation. Some of us follow the motto: Look for the union label, it tells you what NOT to buy!
SkooterG Champion Author Phoenix Posts:1,359 Points:328,585 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 3:02:46 AM Ignore SkooterG Report Abuse A shame. There was a time when Mitsubishi built some compelling cars.