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For Toyota's Lexus it's deja vu: floor mat problem prompts recall

GasBuddy Blog -- Late last week NHTSA issued this statement about Toyota's 2010 Lexus RX 350 and RX 450 H models, approximately 154,000 vehicles:

"After carefully reviewing the data, including consumer complaints and information provided by the manufacturer, NHTSA requested that Toyota conduct an immediate recall of the aforementioned Lexus vehicles for a serious safety issue involving potential pedal entrapment by the floor mat." Pedal entrapment can cause runaway acceleration.

If you think this sounds familiar, you're not imagining things. For Toyota's Lexus, it's deja vu all over again. NHTSA alerted Toyota to the same problem in 2009 for the Lexus ES350 and Lexus IS and Toyota responded to NHTSA that it was not certain that any "safety...

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Submitted Jul 03, 2012 By: PD

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FloorMats Rookie Author Orlando Posts:1 Points:120 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Oct 28, 2012 8:25:56 AM Ignore FloorMats Report Abuse I don't understand why this matter was not considered during planning and testing and quality control, and it happened again? poor system or no system?
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,834 Points:1,638,195 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 7, 2012 8:49:25 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse methinks me's having a deja vu moment too.
lunarrv15 Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:15,071 Points:2,411,060 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:46:10 PM Ignore lunarrv15 Report Abuse okay...interesting thanks for posting
wulf2000 Champion Author Miami Posts:3,161 Points:1,412,405 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 1:50:06 PM Ignore wulf2000 Report Abuse Yesterday's article.
GOBUTLER Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:1,425 Points:407,785 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 1:47:28 PM Ignore GOBUTLER Report Abuse Yes it is!!!
snappytom2 Champion Author Corpus Christi Posts:3,639 Points:279,280 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 1:17:16 PM Ignore snappytom2 Report Abuse old news.
Banjoe Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:4,461 Points:641,595 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:26:30 AM Ignore Banjoe Report Abuse Hard to believe that people can control their cars when they can't even control their floor mats.
muquee Champion Author Harrisburg Posts:2,536 Points:548,645 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:17:13 AM Ignore muquee Report Abuse You would think this is tested to the nth degree before hand.
Digger52 Champion Author Chicago Posts:2,541 Points:875,640 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:09:37 AM Ignore Digger52 Report Abuse Old, but still disturbing, news
Samo1961 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:2,035 Points:648,375 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:06:16 AM Ignore Samo1961 Report Abuse It seems Toyota is having a lot of recalls the last few years, what does this say about the company.
bluetatanka Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:59,071 Points:809,530 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:00:40 AM Ignore bluetatanka Report Abuse Glad I don't have a Toyota!
bootsy1966 Rookie Author Richmond Posts:4 Points:405 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:00:11 AM Ignore bootsy1966 Report Abuse Replaced mines with better ones!!
CheckitoutGuy Champion Author San Diego Posts:1,311 Points:772,890 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:59:42 AM Ignore CheckitoutGuy Report Abuse Yesterday's story
Caribou2011 Champion Author Ohio Posts:3,892 Points:795,980 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:59:11 AM Ignore Caribou2011 Report Abuse Maybe they need to get the toy out of Toyota!!
nobodyMO Champion Author Kansas City Posts:2,251 Points:554,305 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:58:48 AM Ignore nobodyMO Report Abuse More recalls
outlaw329 Champion Author Austin Posts:7,739 Points:1,400,015 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:58:45 AM Ignore outlaw329 Report Abuse How many times is this? Send em back to japan!
Eagle68 Sophomore Author Boston Posts:229 Points:1,669,370 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:57:50 AM Ignore Eagle68 Report Abuse Will they ever learn?
jmg144 Champion Author Maryland Posts:9,829 Points:2,928,570 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:55:14 AM Ignore jmg144 Report Abuse Is there new Toyota management in the last few years.
grammamNV Champion Author Nevada Posts:2,335 Points:372,425 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:54:40 AM Ignore grammamNV Report Abuse is it really so hard to just fix/remove the floor mat???
adgam Champion Author Orange County Posts:2,269 Points:510,295 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:54:23 AM Ignore adgam Report Abuse kk
WE0H Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,562 Points:489,725 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:54:21 AM Ignore WE0H Report Abuse First off you can't 'jumper a computer' in a Prius and have the car function at all. Anything other than a factory floormat could possibly cause issues with the mat moving forward under pedals. It's called use your head, if the mat slides around, move it back or only use factory mats and make sure that mat anchor is fastened. Common sense is all that is needed.
GreenLegend Champion Author Raleigh Posts:1,673 Points:402,595 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:52:08 AM Ignore GreenLegend Report Abuse Mis-engineered FLOOR MATS!!!???
Jizme Champion Author Lincoln Posts:10,020 Points:2,933,455 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:50:31 AM Ignore Jizme Report Abuse They are probably saying deja poo.
rbrowdersr Champion Author Detroit Posts:5,841 Points:1,843,435 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:48:46 AM Ignore rbrowdersr Report Abuse A continuing drama.
CPayZombie Champion Author Phoenix Posts:10,220 Points:1,683,315 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:45:23 AM Ignore CPayZombie Report Abuse Manufacturers should not be responsible for how drivers kick their feet around and displace the mat.
dieselme2011 Champion Author Vancouver Posts:2,731 Points:629,565 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:45:10 AM Ignore dieselme2011 Report Abuse Old News
AC-302 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:26,850 Points:2,929,270 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:42:37 AM Ignore AC-302 Report Abuse Saw this yesterday. Toyota it not willing to admit that, yeah, something is wrong with the computers. Yet a professor at SIU-Carbondale was able to replicate the failure in the Prius by jumpering the computer. Toyota made a point of ignoring him. Toyota needs to have their backsides sued off, much like Ford with the Pinto of the '70s
toxigas Champion Author Oakland Posts:1,333 Points:433,000 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:42:25 AM Ignore toxigas Report Abuse The mechanical solution is probably a done deal. It's the potential litigation that's causing them to drag their feet.
gasokie Champion Author Oklahoma Posts:3,488 Points:1,347,625 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:42:22 AM Ignore gasokie Report Abuse You wonder how Toyota deals with qulity control as well as they do when you see how they have handled this little problem. Oh wait! Maybe they don't deal well with this and their quality is a figment of the imagination of a loving press.
carefrey Champion Author Orlando Posts:5,670 Points:1,186,210 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:40:35 AM Ignore carefrey Report Abuse Old news!
WeasleyOC Champion Author Orange County Posts:3,285 Points:829,800 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:40:20 AM Ignore WeasleyOC Report Abuse Check your floor mats before you start to drive.
honkerman Champion Author San Jose Posts:45,245 Points:2,424,795 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:37:37 AM Ignore honkerman Report Abuse deja vu is not new
ampinoy13 Champion Author Oregon Posts:37,017 Points:2,677,305 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:37:21 AM Ignore ampinoy13 Report Abuse Yesterday's story.
kcboy Champion Author Utah Posts:4,094 Points:1,534,145 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:36:47 AM Ignore kcboy Report Abuse I don't believe it this is happening again. Can't they get it right.
Skunk63 Champion Author Phoenix Posts:2,692 Points:585,975 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:36:47 AM Ignore Skunk63 Report Abuse Uh oh.
fowlcan Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:2,215 Points:710,620 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:36:44 AM Ignore fowlcan Report Abuse Buy American!
pitamon Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:4,992 Points:1,851,620 Joined:Sep 2004	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:34:27 AM Ignore pitamon Report Abuse Here we go again.
greenfog Champion Author Illinois Posts:6,630 Points:1,666,720 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:33:53 AM Ignore greenfog Report Abuse sounds like they had better take floor mats out all together.
BobbyVA Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:5,632 Points:1,201,805 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:32:23 AM Ignore BobbyVA Report Abuse SOS, just like the Toyota problem eariler. People need to be spoon fed as they are now entitlement babies.
Suzy7Q Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:2,324 Points:398,230 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:29:58 AM Ignore Suzy7Q Report Abuse Thats what happen when you buy foreign made.
mickealo Champion Author Spokane Posts:6,302 Points:2,172,135 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:29:27 AM Ignore mickealo Report Abuse does happen I replaced mine when I bought it put good ones in it
SUSANCK Champion Author Chicago Posts:3,782 Points:732,205 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:28:46 AM Ignore SUSANCK Report Abuse Sorry about that.
bobcatfan Champion Author Kentucky Posts:1,708 Points:641,775 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:28:15 AM Ignore bobcatfan Report Abuse Buy American. Problem solved.
SUPERQUACK Champion Author Sacramento Posts:6,247 Points:1,939,005 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:28:01 AM Ignore SUPERQUACK Report Abuse Human error,as always
FrankTA2 Champion Author New York Posts:4,407 Points:1,122,440 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:28:01 AM Ignore FrankTA2 Report Abuse Didn't plan on buying a Toyota or Lexus anyway.
IMLURCH Champion Author Minnesota Posts:2,324 Points:1,130,880 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:27:38 AM Ignore IMLURCH Report Abuse Old Story
ssduck Sophomore Author Orange County Posts:163 Points:1,688,435 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:27:25 AM Ignore ssduck Report Abuse ok
mindrisa Veteran Author Denver Posts:399 Points:137,460 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:25:55 AM Ignore mindrisa Report Abuse ok
jadeusa Champion Author Dallas Posts:9,485 Points:1,851,715 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:24:21 AM Ignore jadeusa Report Abuse Toyota is now being associated with recalls which is bad PR.
JENNYHK Champion Author Chicago Posts:3,781 Points:740,295 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 10:23:29 AM Ignore JENNYHK Report Abuse OK.