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NO_SWEAT Champion Author Toronto Posts:4,350 Points:1,081,040 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 4:01:33 AM Ignore NO_SWEAT Report Abuse General Motors Co. (GM) took to a Georgia racetrack to show that its first compact Cadillac in a quarter- century drives as well as a BMW 3 Series. The trickier part will be getting it to sell as well. While the horsepower of the Cadillac ATS is important, its lease payment ultimately may determine the success of the new model. Bayerische Motoren Werke AG (BMW)’s BMW brand and Daimler AG (DAI)’s Mercedes-Benz have fueled much of their growth with monthly lease deals on the 3 Series and C-Class that have, in some cases, dipped as low as $299 a month. High resale values help, too. “If the price is similar to the Europeans and the monthly payment similar, it will be a challenge to reach their volumes,” Tom Libby, lead North American analyst for R.L. Polk & Co., said in a telephone interview Visit Bloomberg for full article

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General Motors Co. (GM) took to a Georgia racetrack to show that its first compact Cadillac in a quarter- century drives as well as a BMW 3 Series. The trickier part will be getting it to sell as well.

While the horsepower of the Cadillac ATS is important, its lease payment ultimately may determine the success of the new model. Bayerische Motoren Werke AG (BMW)’s BMW brand and Daimler AG (DAI)’s Mercedes-Benz have fueled much of their growth with monthly lease deals on the 3 Series and C-Class that have, in some cases, dipped as low as $299 a month. High resale values help, too.

“If the price is similar to the Europeans and the monthly payment similar, it will be a challenge to reach their volumes,” Tom Libby, lead North American analyst for R.L. Polk & Co., said in a telephone interview
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52MPG Champion Author Dayton Posts:7,272 Points:1,743,655 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 12:25:43 PM Ignore 52MPG Report Abuse It is hard to overcome German engineering.
ss70 Champion Author Detroit Posts:9,677 Points:1,872,050 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 9:30:39 AM Ignore ss70 Report Abuse Forget abt it ... it is the driving in dream ...
TruthMatters Champion Author New Jersey Posts:2,525 Points:535,710 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 5:58:44 AM Ignore TruthMatters Report Abuse Leasing is not the way to go...unless you've got money to burn!
Amplion Champion Author Oregon Posts:6,777 Points:1,867,010 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 2:40:35 AM Ignore Amplion Report Abuse BMW RULES !!!
alterman156 Champion Author New York Posts:7,495 Points:1,558,725 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 10:10:16 PM Ignore alterman156 Report Abuse Cadillac does have some models that can compete against the Europeans.
Tacodan Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:2,336 Points:656,160 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 8:49:25 PM Ignore Tacodan Report Abuse high dollar Government Motors !
kenji554 Champion Author Charlotte Posts:1,217 Points:514,395 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 5:30:19 PM Ignore kenji554 Report Abuse Good to see this US car maker fighting back and proving themselves.
YaBassa Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,440 Points:519,050 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 4:55:09 PM Ignore YaBassa Report Abuse I would only buy the US owned and US built vehicle.
BigTruc All-Star Author Memphis Posts:966 Points:783,345 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 4:00:20 PM Ignore BigTruc Report Abuse Cadillac won't succeed.
Tucker16 Champion Author Ottawa Posts:1,160 Points:545,500 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 3:56:29 PM Ignore Tucker16 Report Abuse That'll be the day.
Suzzoom Champion Author Nevada Posts:2,378 Points:508,090 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 1:13:20 PM Ignore Suzzoom Report Abuse I would never lease a car, but some people love to show off a new car every year.
TRYWI All-Star Author Appleton Posts:898 Points:282,150 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 11:35:57 AM Ignore TRYWI Report Abuse I will never buy a GMC.
VomVom Champion Author Calgary Posts:3,857 Points:1,627,080 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 11:16:59 AM Ignore VomVom Report Abuse Cadillac has built some nice cars recently. Test drove the CTS-V. Nice alternate to the E-63 and the M5. Unfortunately, the CTS-V is not available in AWD which is very benefitial to have for Canadian winters. If the high performance version of the ATS was available in AWD and were priced right, it could be a good option.
Skunk63 Champion Author Phoenix Posts:2,562 Points:560,245 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 11:08:08 AM Ignore Skunk63 Report Abuse Cadillac has made great strides to break into the luxury sport market. But both BMW and Mercedes-Benz have a global marketing strategy and aren't focused exclusively on the US market. They have room to lose some market share here without having to double-down on R&D to go chasing after the new caddies.
schatzila Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:4,959 Points:1,018,570 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 10:26:56 AM Ignore schatzila Report Abuse Wishful thinking.
MontanaMac Champion Author Washington Posts:1,736 Points:410,050 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 10:13:47 AM Ignore MontanaMac Report Abuse Pipe dream for GM.
rjojo40 Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:7,391 Points:1,077,590 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 10:01:59 AM Ignore rjojo40 Report Abuse well i hope G.M. can pull it off.
skinsfan125 Champion Author Virginia Posts:1,557 Points:284,450 Joined:Jul 2010	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 9:56:28 AM Ignore skinsfan125 Report Abuse remember back in the '80s when gm took a chevy cavalier and tried to make it into a caddy. And they wonder why everybody in the world was kicking our butts.
GetMaxCashBack Veteran Author Trenton Posts:386 Points:165,675 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 9:40:41 AM Ignore GetMaxCashBack Report Abuse Not a good move for GM IMHO. Cadillac is known for large, unwieldy, comfortable cars. Not the sport luxury that they're trying to portray. I doubt many consumers would switch from BMW or MBenz, especially with GM's track record of being unreliable.
gbs1 Champion Author Minnesota Posts:2,011 Points:744,550 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 9:35:40 AM Ignore gbs1 Report Abuse Now GM has all three levels of luxury cars covered. Small, medium and large.
AlienBug All-Star Author Connecticut Posts:732 Points:218,035 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 8:47:49 AM Ignore AlienBug Report Abuse How fast do those 75-year-olds in Florida retirement villages drive to the golf course anyway?
leraar2 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:3,774 Points:789,630 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 8:12:42 AM Ignore leraar2 Report Abuse such a waste of good luxury cars. can't get a Lexus, Infinity, Caddy, etc. in this country WITH a MANUAL TRANSMISSION.
humblepie Champion Author Toledo Posts:34,304 Points:2,373,320 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 8:09:48 AM Ignore humblepie Report Abuse made in china vs made in germany, tough choice
BEGTWO Champion Author Maryland Posts:1,952 Points:726,090 Joined:Sep 2010	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 7:58:24 AM Ignore BEGTWO Report Abuse The Cadillac is not a bad looking car!!!
ec951 All-Star Author Riverside Posts:909 Points:381,515 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 7:53:18 AM Ignore ec951 Report Abuse Ok.
mountainrider7 Sophomore Author New York Posts:208 Points:149,165 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 7:46:30 AM Ignore mountainrider7 Report Abuse Who cares, it's a car I'll never own !
Ltdc Champion Author Long Island Posts:7,225 Points:1,679,820 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 7:46:26 AM Ignore Ltdc Report Abuse Sometimes it's all in the name. I guess that's why Lexus etc. was developed.
nozzle46 Champion Author Little Rock Posts:6,700 Points:1,474,025 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 7:26:52 AM Ignore nozzle46 Report Abuse Ah, a competition I care nothing about.
dorisntx Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:2,079 Points:647,355 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 7:08:53 AM Ignore dorisntx Report Abuse Just what we need - more gas hogs...
ziyulu Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:8,509 Points:1,604,825 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 7:07:14 AM Ignore ziyulu Report Abuse I wouldn't buy any of the three--Cadillac, BMW, or Benz. But if I had to choose, I would probably choose Benz.
SUNOIL Champion Author Toledo Posts:5,255 Points:1,927,955 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 6:59:44 AM Ignore SUNOIL Report Abuse Price will have to be competitive.
cdrrod Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:4,164 Points:785,725 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 6:53:33 AM Ignore cdrrod Report Abuse Get rid of the imports!
JamesCalvin Champion Author Lancaster Posts:3,196 Points:521,505 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 6:52:32 AM Ignore JamesCalvin Report Abuse Better drive faast!
gasmad666 Champion Author Illinois Posts:1,856 Points:394,245 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 6:42:03 AM Ignore gasmad666 Report Abuse But will GM be able to gain back all the customers it lost?
amoshins Champion Author Trenton Posts:2,205 Points:643,595 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 6:32:52 AM Ignore amoshins Report Abuse Caddy is getting more competitive - but still an awfully long way to go to actually compete
Nancy&Len Champion Author Cleveland Posts:2,063 Points:1,947,765 Joined:Sep 2004	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 6:30:29 AM Ignore Nancy&Len Report Abuse Not a fan of anything tha ObamaMoters produces.
qwerty17 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:3,660 Points:1,119,625 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 6:24:38 AM Ignore qwerty17 Report Abuse shame on gm for giving it up in the first place.
Xavier80 Champion Author Victoria Posts:1,788 Points:380,390 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 6:10:44 AM Ignore Xavier80 Report Abuse Good
el_fr Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:3,347 Points:746,650 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 6:08:11 AM Ignore el_fr Report Abuse Good luck
brbts Champion Author Charlotte Posts:3,648 Points:777,340 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 6:08:00 AM Ignore brbts Report Abuse Cadillac=American Owned - BMW=Foreign Owned - What was the question or choice again???
StArrow68 Champion Author Oakland Posts:3,268 Points:1,363,190 Joined:Apr 2003	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 6:07:46 AM Ignore StArrow68 Report Abuse Now we have to see if customers like it as much as the reviewers. Nice article.
matman01 Champion Author Detroit Posts:14,849 Points:1,962,785 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 6:06:52 AM Ignore matman01 Report Abuse I like some of the new Cadillacs....something that I never thought I would say!
jbrad4 All-Star Author Dallas Posts:803 Points:478,210 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 6:06:15 AM Ignore jbrad4 Report Abuse Glad to see Cadillac is working to improve.
HorizonChaser Champion Author Montgomery Posts:1,989 Points:457,235 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 6:03:35 AM Ignore HorizonChaser Report Abuse yawn
335d1 Champion Author Virginia Posts:2,391 Points:760,995 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 5:56:36 AM Ignore 335d1 Report Abuse This a Cadillac small car not a re-badged Chevy, let's see what happens.
doeslayersr Champion Author Illinois Posts:9,127 Points:873,955 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 5:55:23 AM Ignore doeslayersr Report Abuse Does not matter to me as I will never own a caddy or a beamer.
humblepie Champion Author Toledo Posts:34,304 Points:2,373,320 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 5:53:07 AM Ignore humblepie Report Abuse NEVER going to happen...........
grandpadon28110 Champion Author Charlotte Posts:4,726 Points:1,144,260 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 5:45:38 AM Ignore grandpadon28110 Report Abuse Go Cadillac. [Edited by: grandpadon28110 at 7/23/2012 6:47:22 AM EST]
tgusa Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:2,476 Points:439,875 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 5:28:09 AM Ignore tgusa Report Abuse Good
daequitz Champion Author New Jersey Posts:6,327 Points:1,385,555 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 5:23:43 AM Ignore daequitz Report Abuse Luring folks with a lease. Beware.